Joker Director Finally Explains That Last Crucial Scene

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Published on Oct 8, 2019
Arthur Fleck's biggest joke just might be the one he pulled on you. Joker director Todd Phillips recently made a few very interesting comments to the Los Angeles Times about the final scene of the movie comments that imply a bizarre truth about the story being presented. In case that's not warning enough, be advised that major spoilers for Joker lie ahead. Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur is depicted early and often as having a tenuous grip on reality. The film eventually lets on that it's not always clear which events are fantasy and which are reality not to the audience, and presumably not to Arthur. At the end, Arthur is seen with his psychiatrist in Arkham State Hospital after he has apparently killed his mother, incited a riot, shot Murray Franklin on live television, and escaped from police custody with the help of his clown-masked followers. As the shrink attempts to question him, Arthur simply laughs, telling her that she wouldn't get the joke. According to Phillips, it's this particular laugh that might hold a clue about the true nature of the story that just unfolded. He explained, "That laugh in that scene is really the only time he laughs genuinely. There are different laughs in the movie. There is the laugh from Arthur's affliction and then there is his fake laugh when he's trying to be 'one of the people,' which is my favorite laugh. But at the end, when he's in the room at Arkham State Hospital, that's his only genuine laugh in the movie." Why is that, exactly? Well, perhaps because in the end, the joke is on us, the audience. Phillips has said that one of the main influences on his film was The Killing Joke, the acclaimed 1988 graphic novel in which the Joker says that if he must have a past, he, quote, "[prefers] it to be multiple choice." The director made a direct allusion to this dialogue in suggesting that as many fans have speculated Arthur Fleck might not necessarily be who we think he is. Phillips said, "There are lots of ways you could look at this movie. You could look at it and go, 'This is just one of his multiple-choice stories. None of it happened.' I don't want to say what it is. But a lot of people I've shown it to have said, 'Oh, I get it he's just made up a story. The whole movie is the joke. It's this thing this guy in Arkham Asylum concocted. He might not even be the Joker.'" Phillips went on to state outright that the man who will become Batman's nemesis may simply be in the background somewhere, watching all of these events play out. He said, "Maybe Joaquin's character inspired the Joker. You don't really know. His last line in the movie is, 'You wouldn't get it.' There's a lot going on in there that's interesting." Phoenix himself also explained that Joker can be seen not so much as a straightforward narrative, but as a series of suggestions. Keep watching the video to see that the Joker director finally explains that last crucial scene! #Joker #JokerMovie #ToddPhillips

3,204 Comments:

Looper
Looper:
How much of Joker do you think really happened in the movie? Which parts?
Billy
Billy:
Before the movie:
"I'm so excited to know Joker's past"
After the movie:
"I'm so excited to know Joker's past"
The Kid
The Kid:
Hot take: Joker is better than a lot of marvel movies
hardnewstakenharder
hardnewstakenharder:
Marvel: "Endgame made billions."


DC: "It's not about money, it's about *sending a message*."
Tony R
Tony R:
This would be, easily, the worst possible outcome for this movie.
Ryan B
Ryan B:
“Joker director finally explains that last crucial scene”
... Doesn’t explain it.
Karthikeyan B
Karthikeyan B:
Heath looking down and be like
"Just give him the damn Oscar"
Michael Haflich
Michael Haflich:
Before The Joker film
Everyone: Doesn’t want to learn The Joker’s past
After the Joker film
Everyone: Well wtf is his past?
Dayumyoo
Dayumyoo:
The 'it's not even the real joker' theory is the most disappointing theory
you shall not pass
you shall not pass:
I don't like the "everything was made up" thing.
Fellow accelerationist
Fellow accelerationist:
Once he is of the meds, he gets better and has less halucinations.
blitzcloud
blitzcloud:
I interpreted the "you wouldn't get the joke" showing Bruce in the alley as in he learned how he left another person abandoned the same way he was.
Just Call Me Sky
Just Call Me Sky:
how did arthur "remember" and "look back" at the scene where bruce's parents died if he wasn't even there in that alley when they got killed? 🤔
Charming nowhere to hide
Charming nowhere to hide:
"When you hand me my Oscar, can you introduce me as JOKER ?" - Mr.Joaquin Phoenix
Scott Berry
Scott Berry:
Other than his imaginary girlfriend, I interpret everything as true events that actually happened. The "joke" being on us would ruin the movie for me.
wassup dude have a nice day
wassup dude have a nice day:
after watching the Joker, I feel like Batman is the villain.
Xxdeath Sh0t
Xxdeath Sh0t:
Was it just me or was his hallucinations and fantasy’s going away when he stoped his medication?
Puerto Riconnect
Puerto Riconnect:
Arthur inspiring “the real joker” would be so lame.
That would make the real joker some weak ass poser while also making Arthur less significant cause he’s just some guy.

Also I don’t get why Todd seemed so annoyed at the idea of this joker interacting with Batman. He ALREADY HAS. They already told Batman’s origin in this movie. They already connected it.
Advanced Placement
Advanced Placement:
JOKER IS MY FAVORITE MOVIE OF 2019
Vic Holtreman
Vic Holtreman:
Title: "Joker Director Finally Explains That Last Crucial Scene"


In the video: "For now we can't say for sure... eventually [Todd] will reveal the truth."


Sigh.
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Rotten tomatoes giving this a 69% shows just how out of touch these “critics” are this movie is a masterpiece
Young Pup X
Young Pup X:
Todd Philips saying a face off not happening, isn’t any giveaway. He doesn’t want to make an action superhero movie. He wants to make a drama
jarleyz 2.0
jarleyz 2.0:
aH tHiS iSnT tHe AcTuAl jOkEr

Me: do you have a death wish
Mountain Breeze
Mountain Breeze:
“No, Definitely not” all while smiling and nodding his head
yabadabado 123
yabadabado 123:
It honestly broke my heart when murray made fun of him and made him mad
Dee
Dee:
Either way fake or not he’s still crazy enough to kill his psychiatrist and walk in the hallway
wrst gen2k
wrst gen2k:
I feel like most of the movie was real, what was fake was his relationship and everything he was being delusional about.
NoxZero
NoxZero:
They crafted a movie that needs to be watched more than once.
defqon01
defqon01:
If he made it all up it would be the worst ending possible.
Wey Ako
Wey Ako:
"none of it was real" is a cheap "plot twist" that kind of makes the movie pointless. the movie is made up in the first place so at least keep it true in the films universe. so i dont believe that it was all just a dream. i think in the end he finds himself as the joker, he is not arthur anymore and for that reason he can finally genuinely laugh, because as he said, his life isnt a tragedy anymore, its really a comedy. so him genuinely laughing and saying that "you wont get it" for me is kind of a moment where he comes at peace with himself and what he has become. arthur doesnt need society anymore, he doesnt care if he is understood or not or if he is rude. he is slowly becoming an agent of chaos. you really need to think about his victims, so he kills the first guys because they were nasty human beings, but as the film progresses he gets drawn in the feeling. i think it becomes almost like a drug to him, he just had to get hooked. so at the end the therapist at the asylum hasnt really done anything bad to him or anyone else as far as arthur knows, but the shot implies that he kills her too, this time without any real reason. now he is the joker, now he is the villain in a super hero universe, who can play cat and mouse till the end of the world (is what i got from the last shot)
razumfrackle
razumfrackle:
I'd like to believe the Joker who murdered Sofie wasn't real, and the Joker who murdered Murray was, but I fear the opposite is more likely.
Rahul Talreja
Rahul Talreja:
"When you hand me my Oscar, can you introduce me as JOKER ?" - Mr.Joaquin Phoenix
STAN SB19
STAN SB19:
"I dont know why everyone is so rude." -Joker 2019
André Hernández
André Hernández:
Looper: the ending finally explained
Director: you can interpret the movie however you feel like.
Me: 4 minutes of my life that I won’t ever get back.
SlackMartin
SlackMartin:
”Finally” we’re like 1 week after the premiere lol.
Mavakaga
Mavakaga:
When you give me my Oscar, can you introduce me as Joker?
TheMetal Hammer
TheMetal Hammer:
Joker's Sequel: Turns out that Jared Leto has framed Arthur and waiting the right moment to reveal himself as the real Joker
IzLitty567 -
IzLitty567 -:
"Knock knock"
Murray: "Whos there?"
"Its the police ma'am, your son was hit by a drunk driver, hes dead." - Joker
A M.
A M.:
Why would the director make the effort to show that his 'relationship' was a delusion if the rest of his life wasn't real either? It doesn't make sense. I think he fantasized the relationship, the first talk show appearance, the 'success' of his stand-up routine and maybe the adulation ftom the crowd. The rest was real imo.
Sean Donahue
Sean Donahue:
Fun theory; he is the real joker, but the entire movie was in his head. He escapes and becomes the joker we know, but falls into the chemicals and boom!
Dennis Mozgovoy
Dennis Mozgovoy:
I don’t know why I simply hate someone’s attempts to interpret movie in one way or another, explain it and then put it in a “box” with label on it, I prefer it to be multiple interpretations including my favorite.

Thanks everyone who worked on that masterpiece. Thank you!
Reggie Azem
Reggie Azem:
During the final scene,where he's genuinely laughing, there was a flash back of Wayne's in the Alleyway, I thought he was laughing bc now they're both Orphans, two sides of the same coin kinda of thing
Popskiptea
Popskiptea:
I think the last laugh in the movie is genuine because Arthur’s true self has finally broken out of its cage. He becomes the Joker, a man people will be forced to listen to, not look through.
Sheila Cone
Sheila Cone:
Yes, but, the movie is entirely from Arthur Fleck's perspective. So, to me, he is the Joker.
Larvancio Ramos
Larvancio Ramos:
The movie was The Joker but he isnt The Joker, well done.
Shaun LaBrie
Shaun LaBrie:
But if "everything was made up" how do we explain the bloody footprints at the end?
Parkie355
Parkie355:
My theory: the only illusions in the film are the obvious ones. The first chat show segment and his fake relationship with his neighbour. What Arthur is laughing about at the end of the film is the fact he’s been locked up. Remember him asking the dude at Arkham ‘what it takes to be locked up in here’. To him, the Murders he committed aren’t serious to him to be locked up in Arkham.
Gpav
Gpav:
I say that when he said “this is the only time he laughs genuinely” that means he has finally found peace in his sort of “clown” self
Michael DePew
Michael DePew:
"It was all fake" endings are terrible, reminds me of Lost.
Puppet lover
Puppet lover:
Most underrated line in the movie: "You're a good dancer. You know who's not? Him! *BANG!*"